categories : Being Bookish
Yesterday, I saw some interesting discussion on the state of Blogger/Publisher relationships that focused on who has the “upper hand” (my words not anyone else’s) in the relationship. Spurned by an awesome post by The Book Smugglers the conversation centered on some important issues that a Book Blogger Convention panel they attended this year brought to their minds. This conversation then, as most do, spilled over on to Twitter where people were further chatting around about how they interpreted the situation.
So, even though I haven’t had the opportunity to comment on the post (which I will) and I didn’t see the Twitter conversation until it was pretty much over I thought I’d chime in on a related issue here and see what you all think about some hot button issues. Because, even though I don’t feel obligated or beholden to publishers I do feel that my relationship with them is more of a partnership than one of us having more control or power over the other. They come to me as an outlet to spread the word about their books, I go to them to feed my interest in being so. I personally don’t feel as though I’m being dictated to in any way when a publisher asks me to post a review on a certain date or within a certain time frame. In fact, I kind of prefer it. I’m a goal oriented, deadline driven girl who needs a timeline and knowing that something needs to be done by a specific time suits my personal preferences. I understand that is not the case for every blogger and appreciate that not everyone agrees with me. Because, really, what works for you doesn’t always work for me and vice versa.
Which brings me to one of the larger issues at hand. I commented on Twitter a couple of days ago that I’d seen rumblings about and attempts to organize book bloggers into some kind of membership organization. As part of this conversation, the dreaded concept of standardization came up. The person I was having a conversation with (a really interesting and good conversation, btw) was commenting that such an organization might strive to generate and maintain a set of standards for bloggers to be able to measure themselves against. I’ll add that we also talked about legitimacy and quality but what stuck out to me was this whole idea of standardization. In my comments back to the idea of this I pretty much said anytime anyone has mentioned standardization (and btw, this person was not advocating for it just sparked the conversation on it) for book blogging the world pretty much exploded. People don’t like nor do they want (as evidenced by my example referenced in the paragraphs above) to be told what to do or how to do it. Sure, I think it’s safe to say that we want to have the conversations, we want to see opinions, get advice, brainstorm and spark creativity but really who wants someone to tell them what to do with their blog? Be it publisher, author, or other bloggers. Certainly not me and I hazard a guess not you either!
So….all this to say, I’m interested to hear people’s thoughts on these subjects. How do you view publisher/blogger relationships? Does standardization of blogging practices creep you out as much as it does me? Is a book blogger membership organization worth the time and effort? I have clear opinions on all of it but I know mine iare not the only ones and I’m interested to see what I may be factoring out of the equation that could possibly be worthwhile.







MotherReader:
I was at the last two Book Blogger Conventions, and I noticed a real shift in the publisher/blogger relationship. In the first one a year ago, I did get a tone of the publishers being in charge and us lowly bloggers asking what we could do for them. I did not get that sense this year, feeling like it was more of a conversation with both parties on equal footing.
Now, as any good partners, we were using the opportunity for dialogue to ask the other what we could do better. And to that, I did hear bloggers continue to ask publishers questions along those lines. But I also heard publishers listening to our needs – even as simple as making expiration dates on e-galleys more obvious.
What we may have to overcome as bloggers – and not everyone, mind you – is our own sense of inferiority and/or obligation. But I think that comes with time and experience. Perhaps one of the problems is a sense from more new bloggers that they can jump in the game at point C, getting review copies immediately without working on developing their blog and principles first. It’s fine to set up a review policy, but it is better to develop a review policy based on your own experiences as a book blogger. IMHO.
June 9, 2011 at 6:49 am
Liz B:
This isn’t the first time I’ve seen something like this floated around. I’m rather hesitant about anything with “standards” because my question becomes, “who decides this? Who gets to tell me what to do with my blog?” And I’m not very comfortable with that.
June 9, 2011 at 7:08 am
WJ Smith:
I agree with Liz B and your own comments in the post. (As a reader) It would be interesting to see what “standards” are suggested and who exactly gets to set them, but I think they should be merely “suggestions”. The book blogs I follow are the ones I trust the person’s opinion. I like their independent reviews. Yes, the blogging world and the publishing world are connected and help one another along, but they are separate. As for organizing the bloggers, there is strength in numbers, but I hope the individuality remains. Blogging about books should be something one enjoys doing. Too many rules and regulations takes the fun out of it.
June 9, 2011 at 10:25 am
KB/KT Grant:
Honestly, I think bloggers have better relationships with authors. But then again I do think publishers, or rather the publicists, are doing their best and have become very dedicated to working on their relationships with bloggers.
It’s up to a blogger to decide what they want to do with their blog. And seeing as blogging is very much voluntary, a publisher can’t expect a blogger to bend over backwards for them.
June 9, 2011 at 10:44 am
bermudaonion (Kathy):
I view my relationship with publishers as a partnership too. I generally ask what expectations are before I accept a book and if I don’t like the date and/or terms, I just don’t take it. I assume if a publisher doesn’t like my blog, they won’t send it. Having said all that, I didn’t start my blog to promote books, but now that I know more about publishing and have met some wonderful authors, that is my goal.
Standardization can be tricky. I don’t want anyone to be dictated to as far as how they blog, but I do think maybe there should be some type of standard in place about what constitutes a book blog. I’ve seen people who post very little book related content refer to themselves as book bloggers.
June 9, 2011 at 11:31 am
Chrisbookarama:
My experience with publishers has been for the most part the opposite. I often feel I’m being courted and they’re very accommodating. I generally get my hackles up when being told what to do, even if it’s just my own perception.
I’m not a fan of the ‘standardization’ idea. I fear there would be an ‘us and them’ situation with the bloggers who are part of that organization and those who refuse to join.
June 9, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Chrisbookarama:
I don’t know why I used so many quotes in that comment!
June 9, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Beth F:
The idea of an organization with some sort of standards has me running (away in the opposite direction). Who would be determining those standards? Ugh.
June 10, 2011 at 4:36 am
Meg @ A Bookish Affair:
I’m new to book blogging but not new to blogging itself. The idea of standardization is not a great one when it comes to blogging. One of the things that I like best about blogging is the freedom to express myself in the way that I feel appropriate. If I’m blogging versus writing for a publication, I want to be able to feel free to blog with integrity.
June 10, 2011 at 4:45 am
Serena:
I think blogger-publisher/publicist/author relationships are symbiotic…one cannot work without the other given the state of the current review world. What I mean is that as more and more newspapers, mags, etc. cut back on review space, publishers need new avenues for marketing efforts, and bloggers can provide that. So you have to work together to not only market those books, but also for bloggers to remain faithful to their own audiences, as the Book Smugglers have suggested.
As for the issue of standardization/organization, I agree that blogging is an individual pursuit, but I think that if you are going to be a “book blogger” there should be a definition or clarification of what that means and perhaps some essential principals — i.e. the integrity of reviews, maybe disclosure of where books come from, etc. However, there should not be hard and fast rules of how to be a book blogger. I hope that makes sense!
June 10, 2011 at 5:29 am
Laura Kay:
I’m very new to blogging and book reviews. I would not be a fan of standardization because it would take away the freedom to express ourselves. This to me is important as I build a following. I want people to follow me because they like what I say and how I say it. I’ve gone to other blogs and there are some I like and some I don’t. Some I feel write too much, others to little, some do stars, some discuss book covers. Just because I do or do not like how someone else blogs doesn’t matter what matters is does the blogger? and does his/her follower–which is why they choose to follow one blogger and not another.
As far as publishers, I’ve felt it very easy to get books. Great books. I have had no issues with publishers and when they ask if I would like to review I simply tell them when to expect the review. I keep a calendar. I say up front I can’t get to this book until last week of August and they come back and say great and send the book.
June 10, 2011 at 5:58 am
Hallie:
I haven’t had a chance to read the Book Smugglers post yet (argh, so many great book blogs, so few I can read on my cell phone) but I think I’m also wary of the word “standardization.” If you change it to “standards,” I start getting more interested. Meaning, if such an organization exists (let’s say) as a networking and education organization, then having some “standards” (guidelines?) for things like disclosing whether or not you make money off affiliate links could be a good thing. Whether or not someone actually has to do that is where the line is the difference in group purpose between networking and something else.
And that’s probably not a great example because it’s possible to figure out link affiliations without disclosure–but it is a fascinating discussion!
June 10, 2011 at 7:05 am
Anni:
I hate the idea of standardizing book bloggers. The whole reason I started my own book blog was specifically so I could do things how I wanted to and in my own time. If I wanted to be dictated to, I’d try to do reviews for Library Journal or some other publication. Sure, it stands out better on your resume, but what I love about blogging is that I can be me and gain a following in a open, honest, and fully free way. And that is very satisfying in a world where we’re told constantly what to do.
June 10, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Teresa:
It has been a fascinating discussion and has given me a lot to think about. I don’t work with that many publishers, but as others have said, I have *never* felt pushed around by the few I have worked with. If I did, I’d say no thank you and move on.
I think sometimes bloggers treat statements of preference (reviews around pub date, for example) as if they were hard-and-fast rules and then it becomes a sort of de facto standard that other bloggers feel pressured to adhere to, even if publishers aren’t always holding bloggers to posting by a certain time. I think the key for individual bloggers is recognizing the difference between publisher preferences and definite expectations. That’s where clear communication and acting as equal partners are so important.
And I share your concern about a membership organization. Different bloggers (and publishers) have different preferences. Who’d decide which preferences become the standard? And who’d decide which bloggers meet that standard?
June 11, 2011 at 8:47 am
Amy @ My Friend Amy:
As I mentioned to you on Twitter, no way no how do I want an organization that dictates what I should do on my blog. I do sort of feel like that goes against the very spirit of blogging.
Though, have you read Feed by Mira Grant? Imagine a world where blogging was like that? (minus the zombies)
June 12, 2011 at 12:02 pm